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Enough is enough. People who proclaim to fight for freedom of expression and free media but censors other's legitimate reply based on their whims and fancy, must realise that on the internet, they cannot suppress peoples' legitimate right to reply and express contrarian views. This blog welcomes all views. ~ Ellese

Selamat Mengundi

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We’ved been hearing two different perspectives for the last few weeks. From BN they are very confident of winning the election until they claim they are targeting 2/3. PR is also confident albeit a simple majority.

From the ceramah held, pr propaganda had a number of huge ceramahs. By my count BN had less than PR. This is just a feel since both blew up the figure. Most picture taken tries to show the most favourable anger.

As usual the truth lies in between.

In order to win in Malaysia, popularity votes do not determine winners. Its by constituency. An accurate account is to go constituency by constituency and thus judge it there. The one who wins is those who have the actual statistical account of each constituency..

However, yesterday I went down to the ground with a few others. I must admit I did not carry out an acceptable polling standards. We pick a spot in town and queried people passing by. I personally tried to stop as many as I can to have a feel. Almost all in my way. About 90%++ so happen to be Malays. So its not reflective of our population. Most there went about shopping. A very random feel.

But my goodness the result was surprising. For the Malays I personally found out that 80 to 90% openly admit to vote for BN. Its like an outpouring of frustration. For non Malays I can’t conclude into diferrent races but noted many non Chinese openly proudly admit they will vote BN today. I take those who avoided the question or appear holding back as PR supporters.

Now I’m not going to justify my method. Told you its not done scientifically and not representative of our nation. But its my truth. You can argue to the contrary you have a contrary subjective findings. So is my subjective truth. I saw and heard from the whole family and their body language. Whatever you want to say, I saw it with my eyes. You may see it differently but I have a story to tell. You call me a liar and I will respond in kind. I don’t do that and protect my integrity.

My conclusion is that the result of GE will split us further. The Chinese are overwhelmingly united on one side with an open display of support. A huge substantial Malay voters (from the low to middle class) albeit less vocal with BN. Indians mainly to BN. And its i believe a fair reflection taking into account of my Facebook friends. Those with PR has been super vocal. Many are just quiet. The only difference is that my friends are roughly 80% professionals and those I met yesterday are from low to middle income. Among my Malay professional friends I believe about 50/50 for bn. However I note Malay professional form a much smaller percentage of the Malay population.

This is not going to be good. We’ve become more polarized.

I wish all Malaysians happy voting. Be safe. Play safe and clean. Accept the decision. Challenge unfair result in court. Respect the majority determined by our Westminster model.

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50 thoughts on “Selamat Mengundi

  1. Ellese,

    I was hoping a more critical write-up or a more hard questioning of your subjects from you. I would like something to chew on. Perhaps, you are holding back until the result is announced.

    Till then, we might ended up being sekutu after the result is announce. I hope, we will work together to criticize the new government then.

    Selamat Mengundi!

    • Or I may retire from writing ….. to take a real life role rather than being unknown to anybody. Kahkahkah….

      Happy voting. Respect democracy

  2. “I wish all Malaysians happy voting. Be safe. Play safe and clean.”

    Yes, voting shd be a happy event, dont do something silly just bec we have different view n stand in politics, take care all.

  3. Like the Malay saying goes “SELEPAS BIDOK BERLALU KIAMBANG BERTAUT SEMULA” – Let’s us close ranks after this GE13 and redirect our thoughts and effort towards nation-building together with the government in being chosen by the people for the good of our future generations. If we truly love democracy we have to respect it. Though politics is part of life it can be either destructive or constructive and let us choose the latter. SELAMAT MENGUNDI.

  4. Then dont bother coming here and make this place alive.

    Why you want to argue i dont know. Its a fact. Most Chinese voted PR. Most of you proudly admit 90% Chinese voted pr. My bet is that you too prescribed and spread the “1000000 million Chinese reject MCA to represent the Chinese” propaganda which contributed to this swing. Undeniable strong racial propaganda. Anyway I can’t bet. If I’m wrong I want you to condemn this racial Facebook propaganda which fill my Facebook read and supported by many Chinese friends.

    • There are no stats to show “most” Chinese had voted PR. It is a common feel that many large ceramahs had more Chinese but there were many huge ceramahs where Malays were the majority. It really depended on where the ceramahs were held.

      It is clear that Malaysians (not only Chinese) reject MCA, Gerakan and MIC as we can see their performance in GE13 and switched to PR. It was the rejection of BN. Every constituency are mixed with a number of mostly Malay seats. There are no mostly Chinese seats and will never have.

      I disagree with the play of words Ellese use for DAP playing the racial propaganda. When they address the crowd, it has always been multiracial. The news media plays this up instead. As a strategy to win seats, PR will stack their strength against BN, seat by seat. I attended both BN and PR ceramahs.

      Next, BN component parties that purportedly represent the Chinese community comprises of MCA, Gerakan and SUPP. In PR, there are Chinese members in DAP, PKR and PAS. Agreed, DAP has a substantially larger Chinese membership but so does PKR to a lesser extent and PAS with their non-Muslim wing. The Chinese can choose who they support and not solely DAP. For example, all the Chinese supports PAS in Kelantan because PAS is stronger there and they take care of them. There is no DAP. Herein lies the faulty analysis of Najib.

      As there are no stats in the GE13 by seats, we will not be able to check this out for sure.

      Ellese just want to argue that the Chinese caused the swing vote while ignoring the rest of the Malays in those seats. Argueably, more Chinese may have supported PR and fewer for BN.

      Finally, calling the Chinese community to reject MCA is not racial. Just like Umno calls Malays to reject PAS is not racial. These rhetorics are focused on specific communities of voters unfortunately but they all do it. And it is not racial.

      Racial is when the rally is to unite to overcome another race. That is not the call you are referring in your Facebook, is it? If it is, then I condemn it. Getting together to celebrate values and not race is not racial.

      But to unite to support PR is not racial. They are not forced to do so and they probably do it because they are fed up with BN and believes in the PR national posture, fair and just for all Malaysians without corruption.

      In Kedah, helped by in-fighting of PAS and maybe vote stuffing, the voters whether Chinese or Malay swung to BN in sufficient numbers to make Mukhriz Mahathir the new MB. What tsunami was this? Why must it be classified by race?

      It is unfortunate that all BN analysis with the exception of Datuk Saifuddin keeps using the Chinese community as their excuse for their poor performance and not their messaging, strategy, manifestos, positions, promises, etc. Why must it be reason solely on race and not positioning.

      By the way, Najib trotted out his son in Chinese garb and spoke Mandarin to woo the Chinese voters, used BN friends to throw millions of Ringgit for mega parties to woo the same, promises of building thouands of affordable homes, goodies for Chinese schools, etc etc etc. Maybe he thought he could get his tsunami turn his way but I guess the Chinese voters didn’t buy it. They ate the food and voted the other way towards PR. Now he blames the Chinese?

      Maybe it is about time the BN thinks clearly that urban voters, regardless of race, rejects the buying of votes, the bullying of ideas, the censoring of news and information, the disregard for rule of law, the closing of eye to corruption, paying lip service to improve the police, etc. So they all turned on the BN and MCA, MIC and Gerakan all close shop now thanks to Umno.

      PR played up the Malaysian Unity theme where semi-urban and urban buys it while most in rural needed a different theme and more money to make ends meet. More to analyze.

      • p2b,

        Try to post under your post, not able to so. I have to double post.

        I have to say excellent write. I have to salute you.

        Najib is using Chinese as the scapegoat for not achieving his promise of 2/3 majority in parliament. This is because the mother of all election for politicians is in their party election. Najib days for premiership is coming to an end soon, so is Rosmah shopping extravaganza.

        • Wave33

          Thanks bro. I am still analyzing the GE13 data. My eyes are getting crossed, so much to chew on.

          Today’s news had Tun M commenting this is the worst performance for BN and is setting the stage for the change of guard this coming Oct/Nov at the Umno AGM. It is Najib’s next fight but the current GE13 results validation is not over yet. There is 21 days to protest but knowing our country, such protests will go down the drain.

          • Bull. Prove it to the court that court has favoured and gone against bn. Don’t bullshit and spread lies,

            Answer the question whether you condemn “1M Chinese….” PR propaganda?

        • Dear racist scum wave,

          Don’t propagate your racist propaganda.

          • Ellese you racist bigot. Look who start all these with a post such as…

            “Why we must reject LKS’ and DAP’s racial politics”

            What is your intention?

            What are you trying to incite?

            I know you have to obey your boss, Najib says something bad about Chinese, you just have to follow suit and with Utusan Malaysia supporting you.

            May peace be with you. May you cleanse all the hatred in you.

          • Dey Racist scum. I wrote warning you guys what happen before results. Utusan followed me lah. Real stupid. How can I follow utusan if I write before utusan. Go check your racist brain. Tak pakai otak.

          • You made your opinion known but not by data. So we don’t argue over your opinion although we disagree.

            OK, Utusan followed you. Happy? You are no better than Utusan then making racial inflaming remarks if you do not condemn what Utusan said.

          • Don’t know why it does not come under your post. Here it is again.

            ——————————–

            p2b,

            Spot on!

            Ellese quote: “How can I follow utusan if I write before utusan. Go check your racist brain. Tak pakai otak.”

            Because of Ellese arrogance want to first to announce before Utusan, Ellese has confirm himself by default….

            A RACIST.

            Finally, I am really proud you, Ellese, jantan betul, mengaku.

            Ellese the RACIST.

          • Don’t bull. I don’t censor. Asyik menipu.

            Anyway my reply to racist scum like you will be the same.

            “Dear racist scum wave,

            Your appalling selective use of racism has been proven for years. To you to call state all the Chinese support PR is racist. But another Chinese mentioning the same is not racist. And when you agree with the statement its not racist.

            But when PR plays racial card appealing to the Chinese to reject MCA and ask them to unite, its not racist. But when umno calls for Malays to unite under umno its racist.

            Its too obvious of your love of one race that you discriminate me purely based on race. You distinguish a position based on race. Since i’m a malay i’m racist. but if others non malay is fine. You should know me that I’m not cowed by your chauvinistic racist attack by you and your ilk normally do. Ill stand up against racist scum like you.

            Ive spent enough time to enlighten you on a true path. But your dark racist heart is too full of hatred and Chauvinism to change. i’m not spending more time on racist scum like you. Sayonara. You deserve to be treated like those you condemn: bersama2 golongan rasis hipokrit.”

          • Thanks Ellese, it describe you as you are a RACIST.

            Self proclaim racist as written in this post.

          • Thanks Wave, it describe you as you are a RACIST.

            Self proclaim racist as written in the commentaries.

          • What’s wrong with you. I’m debunking wave’s another racist lie.

    • Did you know that in Kedah, Perlis, Terengganu, Kelantan, Pahang, Melaka and NS that depending on which seat, the Malays voted for BN or PR. So when PR wins in the many Malay majority seats, what tsunami is that? And when BN wins Kedah now with the help of Malays and Chinese, is that a tsunami?

      Why do we have to view things through racial glasses? Might as well be blind.

      There is only one race, the human race!

      • Who says PR has no Malay votes. No one says that. But its undeniable almost all Chinese united to support PR. You’ve agreed with that statement already. If almost all Chinese support pr, and majority indian support bn, its a no brainer the rest of bn support is from Malays and bumiputra. What’s so difficult for you to understand?

  5. Yesterday on 6th May, I have watched Astro Awani discussion with Datuk Saifuddin Abdullah former Deputy Minister for Higher Education together with Karim Raslan

    The discussion is about Penang and Selangor Tsunami for having 2/3 majority. Datuk Saifuddin gave a very clear explanation and did not use any race base explanation on it, unlike his boss from UMNO whom made all sort of allegation which unbecoming of a Prime Minister. Karim Raslan gave a lot praise towards Datuk Saifuddin and called him a national figure. I have a lot of respect for Datuk Saifuddin, he is rational and he has the correct database and analysis in hand, unlike some idiot Home Minister. Datuk Saifuddin is a Prime Minister quality.

    Penang and Selangor Tsunami together with Pakatan Rakyat getting popular votes of 52% in 13th GE speaks volume. Malaysian has given those votes and is not associated to only one race. Malaysian gave the mandate to Pakatan Rakyat. The Malay, Chinese, Indians and the natives of Sabah and Sawarak has given the 52% popular votes. Penang and Selangor 2/3 majority is only possible if Malay, Chinese and Indian gave their support.

    That is what interesting on a multi-racial society in Malaysia, I would not allow the host of this blog to destory it. The host has been very racist in some of his comment. The host has his agenda, perhaps now Ibrahim Ali and Zulkifli Noordin are politically dead. The blog host, Ellese would like to fill in the shoes.

    • Suka hati lah. You repeat again and get the same result. Tu je. Kalah lagi.

      Its a fact that overwhelming Chinese support PR. I didn’t say they didn’t get other non Chinese support. Otherwise they can’t win any seats. Even most of you proudly admitted 90% Chinese. So what if its call tsunami ke puting beliung ke taufan ke. A fact is a fact.

      This to is due to racial sentiment politics. You can disagree. But I’m sure you’re one of the subscriber of “1000000 Chinese reject MCA to represent Chinese” which filth my Facebook read and subscribed by many Chinese friends. If I’m wrong I retract my statement but after you condemn this racial propaganda and those subscribing to it. So tell me your stand.

      What you couldn’t understand is that Malays saw this and all the big ceramahs etc etc. and they back away and solidified. I suggest pr do this again in the future. Buat lah propaganda “1billion Chinese wants DAP to represent the Chinese” . I’m more than ok. All I can say is padan muka. Pas and PKR will lose more non Chinese support aje.

      • Sorry, I have to repost because you deleted my earlier post. Okay, perhaps it is a technical glitch.

        I would not post comment in your latest post, it has a racist intonation with a racist heading such as ” Why we must reject LKS’ and DAP’s racial politics” and also invite other racist bigot to come it to disrupt harmony in Malaysia.

        What you say it is all assumption without any context. The same has happen in GE 12th but this was never used.

        If you are to watch Datuk Saifuddin Abdullah former Deputy Minister for Higher Education comment in ASTRO Awani would be a great help. It is the politically matured whom rejected UMNO. Politically matured voters are mostly located in urban areas. It is by coincident that the population in urban areas are majority Chinese. It is also true that the urban Malays and other races also rejected UMNO. But, Ellese being a master spinner, you want to spin as you like. In another context, Malaysian has rejected UMNO, why you cannot accept Chinese as Malaysian, Ellese you are a racist.

        I want to develop harmony among races, you think your highly virtuous standing helps by making such comments. Look at the mirror and ask yourself, are you trying to create racial divide or racial harmony.

        Be honest with yourself.

        • Dear racist wave,

          I’ve asked you for the third time. Do you or do you not support the racial propaganda of “1m Chinese reject Mca to represent Chinese”. This is a pervasive pr propaganda. Did you subscribe to it? If not condemned it.

          If you fail to answer this time, your reluctance to answer and condemn will be deemed to confirm that you were supporting and spreading the racist propaganda and that youre not only racist and but an utter hypocrite.

          • Ellese,

            I don’t know where you got that statement? Please put the link here. Okay, I would use the word chinese (since the word makes you happy). Chinese rejected BN, so by default it has to go to MCA. Why MCA? Why can’t the blame be on UMNO.

            Ada faham tak?

            “1 million Malaysian reject BN” would that be more appropriate?
            or perhaps a more precise.

            “1 million Chinese reject BN” (to Ellese preference)

            I am in total support that MCA “Get Lost!” in politics, by not taking any government position. It would be a dawn of a new era that I have been waiting for. It is the best move for Malaysian. With this move, Malaysia would be able to jump start in maturity in politics.

            We would have UMNO looking after the interest of Chinese. Stop and think for while…

            That is what I have always wanted, the African American President could look after the whites in United States and the world, why Najib can’t do it. It would be a great test for UMNO to take a quantum leap in politics. But, is UMNO ready for it? UMNO political survival is depended on it for the next 14th GE. UMNO is looking after the interest of the Chinese, Indian and the natives of Sabah & Sarawak. That would be the ultimate. Then we have Malaysian for Malaysian. Who needs MCA? Get lost!

            My guess, the narrow minded Ellese have not thought of this senario.

            May peace be with you, Ellese.

          • Man you’re leaving on the moon. Its not about the changing of names.

            Put a stand, do you think its racist for Chinese to call on others to reject Mca to represent the Chinese. Ipso facto they must vote DAP.

            Put a stand. This is the first time I ask.

          • Ellese

            You are living on a comet?

            It is not racist for Chinese to call others to reject MCA to represent the Chinese anymore it is racist for Malays to call others to reject PAS to represent the Malays.

            In fact, PR represents all races and have all races in each of their parties in varying degrees. BN represents all races and have all races in each of their own parties.

            The race delineation in BN is by party. There is none in PR.

            What stand you want?

            Again, racist is a person who impose one race on another. DAP fighting MCA and PAS fighting Umno is not racist. It is the attempt to pull voters to support their own cause based on their own positions.

            You have a warped mind.

  6. Ellese,

    This is another of your spin again, you prefer to look at the devil on any matters. Please watch Datuk Saifuddin Abdullah former Deputy Minister for Higher Education comment in ASTRO Awani would be a great help. I have high respect for Datuk Saifuddin even he is from UMNO. UMNO political survival, is only possible by the transformation brought by from Datuk Saifuddin and perhaps Khairy Jamaluddin.

    Since you like mentioning Chinese all the time, I just join you for your easy understanding. Barisan Nasional is a racist party, it is divided among UMNO, MCA and MIC. Technically, any Malaysian whom votes for BN is define by his race. Bigot like Ellese cannot accept that a chinese vote for Najib because of BR1M and he hates Chua CD, but the chinese vote goes to BN.

    Ellese, comprende?

    The chinese are choosing between political parties, they reject BN and voted Pakatan Rakyat in. So happen that DAP is in Pakatan Rakyat and in urban areas. Chinese vote for PKR and PAS too.

    Ellese, what are you trying to do?

    I fight for the betterment of our nation. Ellese, I think you are not, polarizing certain issue.

    I have always guided you to have the correct path. I hope you see some light.

    Salam. May peace be with you.

  7. p2b,

    I have to salute you.

    Ellese the RACIST is trying to INCITE racial disharmony. Sudah lah! A person of high moral standing. Ellese make up all the scenario, to justify his claim. I am not buying it.

    Only racist sekutu with Ellese will buy it.

  8. p2b,

    For me, I have already accepted the result. There is nothing much we can do now.

    The TAHAN squad is effective on each polling station. It is the postal votes and extra ballot boxes that is an issue. Difficult to prove anything.

    Ballot boxes still can be accounted for, number of voters came, to tally with the number of votes.

    Any idea which party Ellese voted for? 😀

    • Bull shit. Why do you like to spread lies. Ballot box not material after counting at saluran. Go and search Nurul’s izzah’s polling agent experience. Dah lah racist, now a purveyor of scare mongering lies.

      • Now you are talking nonsense. Ballot box still material for re-counting and Postal Vote boxes mysteriously apppears. Read that FB entry again. What is important is Borang 14 which many are not signed off yet results are announced by SPR.

        • The boxes in question are the early voters and postal voters, many which mysteriously appears and comes after lights off or comes when specific BN candidates are losing. They come in taxis, vans, cars, via the highway and the backroads. Furthermore, the Borang 14 of many salurans are never signed yet the SPR ignores this. Then why observe, why ballot?

          They are introduced after they kick out the other candidates and their representatives PABACAs. Do you think all the reports and complaints and videos are all fake? They are a figment of Malaysian’s imagination? The accusations of SPR and Police working with BN to fix many seats are unfounded? These accusations are the product of PR’s mind? The Malaysians involved in stopping the many foreigners are just video productions of talented Malaysians now showing on YouTube?

          • Bull. You don’t know don’t talk. Read my previous reply.

            I tell you if there’s a case pr can overturn decision in courts. Lets see whether they dare to put in a case for us to see their evidence. 21 days counting.

        • Why do you like to proudly display your ignorance.

          Any recounting is at saluran. Just point me one instance recount was done at centre. Tak da kan. You know why? Coz political parties don’t like the risk of transporting the ballot box. After voting they’re kept for court cases.

          Now other really ignorant statement is to equate our normal ballot box with postal votes. Postal votes put into locked postal bags. They are different from our ballot boxes in terms of size, appearance and colour. All pictures I’ve seen are ballot boxes.

          Really upsetting when people don’t know and claim others nonsense. Rubbish betul. Go and read lah the regulations. Ini malas membaca and tunjuk pandai.

  9. wow, the war is still on here?

  10. Ellese quote: “Do you or do you not support the racial propaganda of “1m Chinese reject Mca to represent Chinese”. This is a pervasive pr propaganda.”

    I do not take anything you say as fact. I have asked you to provide link for such statement for me to analysis before making comment. Please provide the SOURCE of your information.

    Okay, since you like providing racist remark. I reply you according to the sentence with limited info.

    I see there nothing wrong or racial about it.

    Malay reject Malay
    PAS reject UMNO

    Indian reject Indian
    Hindraf reject MIC

    Chinese reject Chinese
    I cannot use DAP here because it is a multi-racial party. Chinese need a representative, the closes that they can get is in DAP or perhaps PKR too. But I think PKR prefer DAP to handle it.

    Terminology of racial is one race against the other race. What is so racist about PAS against UMNO? What is racist about Malay against Malay? Ellese is RACIST, he is trying the flame racial disharmony. Ellese is doing the same thing as Utusan Malaysia trying to create and sensationalize an issue which does NOT exist. It is the same statement as “Apa lagi cina mahu?”

    Ellese is purely a racist bigot. There is no context to support his racial fanning.

    That is why I refuse to engage Ellese on racial matters, it does not help to build the nation. Ellese is a liar saying PAS reject UMNO is racial. It is political differences, it is NOT about race.

    Chinese reject MCA. It means Chinese reject Chinese politicians. What is so racist about it?

    Ellese, you need to check your logic and stop thinking like a racist. In Malaysia, we do not need a racist like you. We need a muhibbah nation with harmorny and peace.

    We have reject Ibrahim Ali and Zulkifli Noordin.

  11. In Wave33 defense…

    Ellese you have become a narcissist, isn’t it? “1M Chinese..” is PR propaganda just like “1 vote for DAP = 1 vote for PAS”, “PAS cannot defend Malay”, and a thousand such rhetorics the political parties play. Some border on racism but they play on the race card. It is not racism as long as they don’t play one race against another. Happy?

    So in line with your thinking, you said there is a Chinese swing across the board. So what? DAP is voted by all races and they only challenged 53 seats. DAP seats fought MCA, Gerakan and MIC seats and now have 2 more Malay MPs in Parliament – Zairil (Bukit Bendera) and Ariff (Raub), while DAP lost 15 seats they contested. Where is the swing in those places?

    There were Malay voter swing in many seats too. Look at Kedah, Terengganu and Selangor. Particular to point out the numerous seats Malay candidates beat those from MCA, Gerakan and MIC. So where did the tsunami flowed?

    Please provide data to support the claims, put up or shut up. I shall provide you with data in the next comment if you can’t.

    • By such virtue bn is not racial.

      I feel like puking with your double standard. According to LKS and all DAPs its even racist when TPM says he’s Malay first then Malaysian.

      When umno call for Malay to unite and vote for umno, dap says its playing the racial game. Its racist.

      You’re typical selective pr supporter. Applying racism when against you but its fine if it favours you. Your failure and defense of the racial politics by DAP clearly show your hypocritical stand on racism.

      Wavre I’ve proven in other blogs. I now add you in the same category.

      • Quote: By such virtue bn is not racial.
        >> BN is radial, parties are divided base on race.

        Quote: TPM says he’s Malay first then Malaysian.
        >> Of course that is a racist remark, sabotaging his boss.

        Quote: When umno call for Malay to unite and vote for umno
        >> Malay united against what? United to vote, who are you fooling? Why Chinese and Indian cannot vote for UMNO?

        Ellese is a typical selective UMNO supporter. Applying racism when against us but its fine if it favours UMNO or Ellese. Your failure and defense of the racial politics by UMNO and Utusan clearly show your hypocritical stand on racism.

        Ellese you a racist, you even admitted yourself here in this post.

        • Dear racist scum wave,

          Your appalling selective use of racism has been proven for years. To you to call state all the Chinese support PR is racist. But another Chinese mentioning the same is not racist. And when you agree with the statement its not racist.

          But when PR plays racial card appealing to the Chinese to reject MCA and ask them to unite, its not racist. But when umno calls for Malays to unite under umno its racist.

          Its too obvious of your love of one race that you discriminate me purely based on race. You distinguish a position based on race. Since i’m a malay i’m racist. but if others non malay is fine. You should know me that I’m not cowed by your chauvinistic racist attack by you and your ilk normally do. Ill stand up against racist scum like you.

          Ive spent enough time to enlighten you on a true path. But your dark racist heart is too full of hatred and Chauvinism to change. i’m not spending more time on racist scum like you. Sayonara. You deserve to be treated like those you condemn: bersama2 golongan rasis hipokrit.

          Ps: I dont want to use my brains to reply a racist. Senang hidup.

  12. p2b,

    Spot on!

    Ellese quote: “How can I follow utusan if I write before utusan. Go check your racist brain. Tak pakai otak.”

    Because of Ellese arrogance want to first to announce before Utusan, Ellese has confirm himself by default….

    A RACIST.

    Finally, I am really proud you, Ellese. Jantan betul, mengaku.

    Ellese the RACIST.

    • Dear racist scum wave,

      Your appalling selective use of racism has been proven for years. To you to call state all the Chinese support PR is racist. But another Chinese mentioning the same is not racist. And when you agree with the statement its not racist.

      But when PR plays racial card appealing to the Chinese to reject MCA and ask them to unite, its not racist. But when umno calls for Malays to unite under umno its racist.

      Its too obvious of your love of one race that you discriminate me purely based on race. You distinguish a position based on race. Since i’m a malay i’m racist. but if others non malay is fine. You should know me that I’m not cowed by your chauvinistic racist attack by you and your ilk normally do. Ill stand up against racist scum like you.

      Ive spent enough time to enlighten you on a true path. But your dark racist heart is too full of hatred and Chauvinism to change. i’m not spending more time on racist scum like you. Sayonara. You deserve to be treated like those you condemn: bersama2 golongan rasis hipokrit.

      Ps: you make me think that I should help the Malays to articulate position against racist people like you.

  13. Aisay gentlemen, why argue about racists, racism etc – we are all racists to a degree in Malaysia but no one is prepared to admit it. Boring lah………

    Let’s do something better tonite – Go to the Stadium and listen to chefs talking about Sup Bontot recipe. Belum try belum tahu. Sup Bontot kalau kena selalu boleh ceret beret.

  14. Aisay gentlemen, why argue about racists, racism etc – we are all racists to a degree in Malaysia but no one is prepared to admit it. Boring lah………

    Let’s do something better tonite – Go to the Stadium and listen to chefs talking about Sup Bontot recipe. Belum try belum tahu. Sup Bontot kalau kena selalu boleh ceret beret.

    • I’m getting bored juga. Wave has been hounding me for years. This is his typical style to smear. Sorry bro I’ve never backed down. Just skip my diatribe between me and wave.

      • OK, Ellese, I understand but I hope we can stop this personal attack between bloggers.

        My real concern is on Anwar & colleagues who are never satisfied with the results of the GE13. OK for them to have dissatisfaction and complaints but they must come up with concrete evidence and submit them through proper channels as per the laws after and within the stipulated time period. Why the need to break the laws by having illegal demonstration & calling for more nationwide protests. This is a bad example to our youths who would then think that it’s OK to break the laws whenever they are dissatisfied with the authorities. This is bad training to our youths who are our hope for the future. This action also is painting a bad image of Malaysia abroad which will also adversely affect our economy in the long run. We have to balance our emotion with some rationale.

  15. Let me sum it up here.

    1. It’s undeniable almost all Chinese united to support PR, etc.
    I tend to agree with this view but I have no data to support it. Maybe a very large number of Chinese but they only represent less than 24%. I think in absolute terms, there is an equal number if not more Malays supporting PR since they are about 60%. 100% of Chinese votes is less than 50% of Malay votes and we know it can’t be 100% for Chinese but it can be 50% for Malay votes.

    The SPR dataset is not broken down for such analysis. So everybody will project what they feel. But the danger when the PM takes this opinion as verified fact is so dangerous and playing with fire while talking about reconciliation.

    2. Anyone who plays the race card of their own race is NOT racist, just making racial inflaming rhetorics. It becomes racist when they play one race to be more superior to another or putting another race down. I condemn the racist comments but deplore the racial inflaming statements. See the difference?

    3. You seem to have an expert view of how counting is done. If all the saluran Borang 14 are added up, the unofficial should not be that different from the official but it is. Since there were numerous unsigned Borang 14 (allegedly), the excuse is that the PR tampered with their set. The BN and SPR sets prevails. So, do we recount the boxes again? No point since they are already possibly tampered with. My opinion.

    4. The large number of alleged fraud activities being foreigners voting, SPR chasing PR reps out of the counting hall for periods of time, light out (allegedly) and boxes appear (allegedly, but I am not how the tampering really works), videos of ballot boxes in abnormal situations on YouTube (good PR productions?), cannot be swept under the carpet. I agree these must be scrutinized which are real, which are not, and if they affect the final outcome of the election.

    5. Now await the petitions to courts and Bersih/Suhakam commission to check them out. I submit just because I can’t see how a bait-and-switch worked in the election process does not mean it did not happen especially in such large numbers.

    Until all the proofs are verified and the remaining doubts do not have any material effect on the election result, I will maintain that the GE13 is not free and fair and not reflective of the majority of voters desires.

    Now, RPK has published his conspiracy theory that all of GE13 is playing out the BN script to kill or break PR. Who won, who lost, all caused by BN. Do you believe that?

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