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Enough is enough. People who proclaim to fight for freedom of expression and free media but censors other's legitimate reply based on their whims and fancy, must realise that on the internet, they cannot suppress peoples' legitimate right to reply and express contrarian views. This blog welcomes all views. ~ Ellese

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Bar Council legalizing racial and religious hatred and incitement.

Actually I really don’t know who the bar council is representing? Which segment of society do they represent? Which segment of lawyers do they speak for?

Yesterday they passed a resolution to abolish the sedition act and replace it with a new racial and religious hate crime law in line with that proposed by NUCC. This effectively legalize all racial and religious incitement including incitement like “non Malays are pendatang”, “Islam is a @&$*# religion”, “Malays are lazy and stupid” and many other derogatory racial utterances so long as there’s no threat to physical harm. This is because as per my previous post, the NUCC’s draft only makes illegal if there is a threat of physical harm.

Ambiga, suaram, lim guan eng, lim kit Siang, Khalid Samad, marina Mahathir, Mujahid, DAPs, PRs, the liberals and the non Malays in general have all the while almost on a daily basis berate how racist and bigoted we have become. They claim our country has become worse than ever, and demand action be taken against those spewing racists statement.

Isma, perkasa, muhyiddin, our security forces, many/most in UMNO and the Malays in general have also been berating on a daily basis the bigoted insult to Islam, Sultans, Religious authorities, long held traditional practices and Malay privileges. They too claim our country has become worse than ever, and demand action be taken against those propagating hatred.

So for example, the first group, the left, will demand action be taken against the second group, the right, for inciting “non Malays are pendatang”. The right too will demand action against the left for example, for inciting, “derhaka” against the Sultan.

So if almost everybody wants action be taken against incitement, who then does the Bar Council represent when they resolve in legalising racial and bigotted incitement bar physical threat? Does the 700 to 900 people represent the whole bar of around 15000?

What is perplexing is that many in the Bar Council including their president and past presidents condemn racists and religious incitement yet want to legalize such incitement. Huh? How can the rakyat not see how hypocritical they are? How can the rakyat not see that they have ulterior sinister motive masking the hypocrital stand as part of human rights? Unless of course they don’t know what they do which imply they are “dumb”. I don’t believe so as I know some of them as very articulate and smart. But I leave all of you to decide. Whichever case you decide, it’s damning on the Bar for saying one thing and doing the opposite.

This is why I said before that the Bar Council has been one of the major player in the mess, dissatisfaction and disillusionment that we read daily. They have been taking selective stands on issues and fail to defend the constitutional compromise we have all agreed to uphold. They misrepresent us. In this case they even misled us with their hypocritical stand.

It’s time we reform the Bar Council.


Those against Sedition Act don’t think.

I’m fairly convinced now that those who support the abolishment of the Sedition Act and replacing it with a new law called Racial and Religious Hate Crime Bill (“RRHBC”) by NUCC, not only have not read the two laws, but really don’t know what they want.

Why is this?

Because all the things that they condemn as racists and extremists are not only allowed under the new Bill, in fact it encourages one to incite a worse racial and religious hatred statement than currently is.


You see when Abdullah Zaik of Isma was reported to say about the Chinese “Who gave them citizenship and wealth until the results of their trespassing are protected until this day?…This was all the doing of the British, who were in cahoots with the Chinese to oppress and bully the Malays,”, many of the left were so angry as this incite racial hatred and even DAP lodged numerous police reports against it. Guan Eng then even called for the application of our Sedition Act.

You know what? Under the proposed racial and religious hate crime bill they are not only permitted to say this, they can say worse such as insulting the Chinese as a race. Why is that? Because under the new RRHBC, it is only a crime if there is a threat of physical harm. Meaning you can incite as much as you want so long there’s no incitement of physical harm, it’s not an offence.

Really? Section 4 of RRHBC states : “Whoever engages in conduct that is intended to threaten, incite, or incite others to threaten, physical harm towards another person or …property …on the basis of race is guilty of an offence…”. (See full law below)

So Guan Eng and the left including Ambiga and Negaraku cannot complain about Abdullah Zaik’s statement. In fact no one in this country should ever complain if one derogatorily calls the Chinese pendatang.

This really doesn’t make sense. That’s why I think those who support the abolishment of the Sedition Act and be replaced with RRHBC don’t know what they want but yet think they have a high moral ground. This is a most foolish and idiotic action.

By the same token please also note that under the proposed section 5 of RRHCB on incitement of religious hatred, you can derogatorily say anything about one’s religion, as much as you like, and still not committing an offence if there is no threat of physical harm. So one can say anything about Islam such as “Islam is a *#*&^@ religion” (put whatever you like) and its still not criminal incitement.

This is really crazy. It will only create more ill will and racial and religious hatred. Don’t know what NUCC is thinking? How can this have any semblance of achieving unity. And worse, the Bar Council appears to be supporting this anarchist state of affair. The Bar should stand against this. That’s why I said in my past posting the Bar Council is a major part of this mess we have, in championing unbridle rights.

Let’s go back to the constitutional compromise we have. The give and take our forefathers had. The value of “jaga hati orang lain” or emphatized with each other. We know we are different so we don’t purposely offend. We don’t unnecessarily provoke as it will invite a further provocative reaction. Stand back and think rationally.


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The derhaka of the lying Aziz Bari

I refer to TMI and FMT article entitled:

“Aziz Bari: Derhaka kepada Sultan bukan satu jenayah”

Till now there is still no denial by Aziz. If you read the article. Aziz said:

“Pertamanya, setahu saya, tiada undang-undang di Malaysia yang menjenayahkan apa yang dikatakan sebagai derhaka. Derhaka bukan satu kesalahan sebenarnya.”

He then said: “Jadi itu hak ‘pihak’ berkenaanlah untuk menderhakakan sesiapa sahaja untuk jadi katak ke atau apa”

He then said : “Saya harap raja dan istana faham serta tidak termakan fitnah Umno yang mengatakan PKR dan DAP kurang ajar…” knowing full well that it was HRH and not umno which considers the PKR and DAP biadap in HRH’s letter (see my previous post).

How can this not be a statement with intent to bring “into hatred or contempt or to excite disaffection against any Ruler”? How can all these statements show any semblance of “kesetiaan kepada Raja”? How can this statement be in line with our principles of “kesopanan dan kesusilaan”?

This Aziz Bari is pits. We were always taught not to cross the line of derhaka be it our parents or our sovereign. Be respectful. Disagree with manners if you must. No one for example teaches their children to menderhaka simply because there is no law to it. Aziz Bari just did that. He is a sick person.

And you know what’s worse, he lied. There is a law against doing this. Under the Sedition act, section 4 states it is seditious to utter seditious words. Section 3 states that a statement is seditious if it brings “into hatred or contempt or to excite disaffection against any Ruler”.

His call for promoting derhaka clearly is a crime. Not only has Aziz committed a crime, but under Section 4, FMT and TMI have also committed a crime in publishing the seditious article.

There is no defence of academic opinion. A lie is not an academic opinion. Assuming he lies again saying he is unaware of the sedition act, he is a constitution law lecturer for goodness sake. For this lie he does not deserve to be call any semblance of professorship.

It is for this reason I say we need the Sedition Act. We cannot allow people who lie to create hatred contempt and disaffection against our rulers get away scot free.



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TMI at its racist’s self.

Yesterday TMI ran a few articles gunning down the much respected ex CJ Tun Hamid. Their usual modus operandi is to take a speech out of context and cast it as racists or bigots. Then get a few lapdogs to reaffirm and in yesterday’s case they got LGE to come up with his usual selective racists charge. Consequent to this they expect a set of reactions generally from liberals to condemn and reaffirm the racists tag line.

So to those who read TMI it will get a reaffirmation of a siege mindset as planned by TMI.

Now this racists branding of TMI can only happen if one raises Islamic or Muslims issues. One can be extremists on non Muslims views and would not be regarded as racists. Thus Islamic religious authorities asking Muslims to unite on various issues say Allah issue will always be portrayed as racists to TMI but if another religious or racial denomination asking to unite eg Christians uniting for the same Allah’s issue will never be racists or bigots. Whatever is done by non Muslims will not be racists by TMI. Thus you see DAP playing the racial theme and card of uniting the Chinese in the previous GE can never be wrong.

The next step that TMI does is to get a reaffirmation of the extreme view from unknown unrecognized Muslims to misrepresent the views of all Muslims here. So to readers of TMI these strange unknown views are misleadingly portrayed to reflect the concern of most Muslims.

This is the standard modus operandi of TMI that they have used over the years. The consequent of this is not only the views of mainstream muslims being dismissed and cast aside, it created much animosity to such view. There is no empathy at all. Thus there is no possibility of compromise. This is evident in the Allah issue. It’s always portrayed as an umno issue though time and time again survey after survey reveals overwhelming Muslims are against it.

Similarly with Tun Hamid. Those who condemn don’t even know what he’s saying except to conclude certain out of context remarks are racists.

We badly need an objective and balance media.

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The end of our admiration of Obama.

When he was first elected, we had so much hope. Hope that many things will change. Hope he makes significant changes to American politics and governance. Hope he makes momentous stands on principles that would etch him in the annals of history among the great US Presidents.

But hope with Obama remains just “hope”. Many in the US think he has not brought much change. His approval rating has been dipping and dipping probably better than just his predecessor George Bush.

But for the world many still clings to Obama as a man that will bring change. He did change the way how Americans deal with its powers in the world. It did bring much optimism until recently when reality hits the ground. He is actually no different from his predecessor.

That decisive moment was when he abused an Iftar session to humiliate Muslim leaders in the US. When it was an event to foster greater goodwill and relationship among the Muslims and non Muslims, he politicized the event to justify Israel’s position of indiscriminate killing and land grab of Palestinian land. Where Muslim leaders were to celebrate a great partnership with the US Government, Obama took the occasion to tell them to recognize the Israeli justification of their inhumane policy. The Israeli ambassador gleefully tweeted to the world how Israel was able to defend it’s position among the Muslims leaders.

What Obama did was unforgivable. He, in the words of Malcolm X, was trying to create hatred “on the people who are being oppressed and love the people who are doing the oppressing”. It’s like preaching to the black leaders movement then in the like of Malcolm X and Martin Luther King that it was the black’s fault that resulted in their discrimination and klu klux klan was justified in killing and torturing the blacks. Obama has betrayed this very principle of the black movement which has brought his presidency.

Shame on you Obama.

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Sick Malaysians

I’m having a heated discussion elsewhere and I really think we have some really sick Malaysians among us. Bung Mokhtar is not even close to their level and is put to shame by these Malaysians. They are scums to me.
In the Palestinian case, the Israelis reacted way unconscionably against any international norms and laws in indiscriminately killing 100 Palestinians including the children when they retaliated against the 3 Jewish teenagers who were killed earlier. The Israelis who are the occupying force and maintain an unshackled control over the Palestinians could and should have used due process to bring to justice the perpetrators. But instead they chose summary execution by killing others who are innocent.

Now these Malaysians, instead of condemning the aggressor here, chose to condemn the Palestinians instead. Some even went to suggest that the Palestinians should leave their land and country so that the Jews/Israelis can be rewarded with further lands. How in the world do we have these Malaysians?

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What!! Australia is more discriminatory than Malaysia?

Australia has a population of around 10% with Asian origins. But they have only 10 parliamentarians who have Asian origins ie about 1.7%. In the private sector, Asians hold only only 1.9% of executive managers and 4.2% of directors had Asian origins. Out of top 10 richest person, there doesn’t appear to be any Asians. Can’t imagine how many Asians are there in public service and hold KSU like positions there.

The non Malay minorities in Malaysia have much more than that. For 2013 election the minorities hold 59 out of 133 parliamentary seats. We see so many of them holding executive positions in the private sectors and directors positions in listed companies. In all likelihood they hold an overwhelming majority of such positions. Then we have a number of KSUs from the minority group. And out of the top ten richest persons in Malaysia, 8 or 9 of them are from the minority group.

Yet the minority argue they have greener pasture in Australia. Yet they argue they have more democratic voice in Australia. Yet they argue they’re second class citizens.

I must say the Australian caucasians are bloody lucky. If they were here in Malaysia, they would have been called racists. There would probably be a massive hate campaign against them for not giving the Asians equal opportunity. They would be called to the United Nations human rights commission to explain this discrimination. There would also be a “Negaraku like movement to allow equal opportunity to the Asians.

Or could it be that the minorities here are under a false siege mindset perpetuated by the DAP racist propaganda?

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The incessant attack on Malaysian Muslims practices

Muslims must be aware of the incessant depiction by our left wing medias to project old peaceful practices as a new intolerant practice. We must stand up and say “that these practices have long been in existence and have never created an issue. How come when nothing else has changed save that its just been known by certain section of society, our long held tradition became rigid and intolerant.” This is the false argument and spin by the left wing media that is bombarding us on a daily basis.

Take instance in the past when TMI portrayed that we have become intolerant and rigid when one Ustaz Datuk Daud reminded Muslims not to look at opposite sex who are not covering their aurat. This is not a new teaching at all. We have always been taught and reminded to be mindful of what we see. Some follow but many don’t or could not follow. To the Muslims it’s just another reminder. But to those who are unaware, when they read the bias tmi article they think Muslims here have become rigid. Then came a reaction that Muslims here must condemn this intolerant practice. But that’s the problem. To a Muslim, there is nothing to condemn since it’s never an issue in the first place. So we Malaysians become divided again.

Similarly with the current spin of Malaysians being involved in ISIL Iraq. The cause of this according to STAR and Marina is due to our recent khutbah and religious sermons promoting Sunnis Shiahs divide. You see, for the past few years, TMI have been publishing khutbah jumaat and religious talks with intent to show Muslims becoming exclusive and intolerant. So Marina wrote that for the past two years we have been bombarded by these sermons and this has caused people to be extreme and join ISIL. How disconnected Star and Marina are.

Malaysia has always been from day one a Sunni dominant country. Our laws have always recognised this privilege/ bias of Sunni doctrines prevailing over others. Our khutbah and religious sermons as far back as I can remember have always rallied Muslims on various issues including to hold on to the Sunni doctrine. This is not new. We have live like this in peace since our forefathers. No one for decades ever accuse these practices as rigid and intolerant. In fact we have been known as one of the most tolerant Muslims in the world.

To the uninitiated, please be informed that the Sunni shiah feud has been of utmost divisive schism for more than a thousand years. It is not one to be resolved easily in my view as it has a deep division of history, differences of tenets and bad blood. To my mind, our religious authorities have always been mindful and vigilant of this. They have always promoted common values under the Sunni doctrine. The fatwas issued never declared Shiah as non Muslims but deviant from the Sunni doctrine. We have in the main been tolerant but very firm against the propagation of it among the Muslims here. The authorities have never as far as I recall promoted the message of hate leading to killing Shiah, right until the last khutbah in the last few weeks. Though not perfect, the balance is just acceptable and can even be improved.

However, the left wing media and liberals seem somehow very ignorant of this division just like the US when they invaded Iraq. Their solution apparently is not to recognize the difference. That’s all. Hoping by “liberalism” all will solve. This is exactly what the US was doing in Iraq and led to a failed policy needlessly killing hundreds of thousands. What the left wing media liberals and US didn’t realise is that they have not offered any new proposition at all to this long standing 1000 years schism. Their solution is not only short sighted but will actually make situation worse as in Iraq. Denial of a syndrome is definitely the precipe for disaster.

That’s why I believe our approach has been balance on Sunni shiah issue. All the years we have been able to live peacefully. We solidify being a Sunni and as a result Shiah has never been a serious security threat. Where any one Muslims org takes up arms like ma’unah or memali we have regarded as a security issue and clammed down very fast.

So next time any of these papers or liberals condemn our long held Islamic tradition and practice, don’t be defensive. Tell them in a polite way they are furthering the siege propaganda of those of who seek to divide us. Ask them to be critical of what they read especially tmi who are bent on inciting hatred on our religious authorities and dividing the us.

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Why are we are so polarized?

Cannot agree more with this article: Right and wrong cannot be determined by the person doing it. A similar action must have the same value irrespective of who the doer is.

Unfortunately many Malaysians have loss this. And as a result we now fight on many things that we should not and cannot find much common ground. We become directionless not knowing what we want.

For example. BN and PR year after year without fail submit a deficit budget adding to our national debts. Many of us raised our concern on our national deficit. Instead of asking both BN and PR for a surplus budget, many argued illogically one deficit budget is acceptable and the other is not. Why? Because it depends on who presents the budget. It is not based on merits. A party I support will always be right and a party I don’t support will always be wrong even though they do the same thing. So those complaining of deficit budget will always get a deficit budget. Ridiculous isn’t it? But that’s the position of many Malaysians nowadays who clearly do not know what they want. They only know who they want.

As a result, many don’t realise it that, as the article pointed out, we become more polarized than ever before. We become more ‘cronyistic’ than ever before. We become more and more of what we condemn. We have simply lost our moral compass.

We read bias untruthful and fabricated materials as the truth. We never seek to find out the truth or what is right on the matter. What we want is anything to reinforce our views. Our media then provide distorted and malicious lies to the extent of fabricating stories to feed and instigate us. And we react day in day out based on this.

We then ponder why Malaysia now has become a place so intolerant and full of daily conflict. Not the Malaysia that was brimming and strident with confidence pushing for a common goal like in the past. We wonder why we have become so regressive. All the time forgetting we too have been complicit in this.

We need to move on to a better level than this. First thing to do is to have an objective media which puts both sides of the story as it happens. It must adopt the US SPJ ethical reporting standards which demands objectivity and fairness in reporting. There cannot be distortion of news header or pictures. News should not be skewed and mixed with opinions. Sources must be credible and not any Tom Dick and Harry who fulfills the papers agenda. The more we read balance news, the more discerning we are. Malaysia needs this now badly in my view.


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